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Ball Bearing Guide

Post by zenocha » 27 Sep 2010, 15:25

Hi all, I thought id post up a little guide to replacing the standard brass bearings with ball bearings. I decided to swap them since the ball bearings will offer less resistance and hopefully better operation, I havent yet had time to fully test whether ball bearings offer extended flight time or reduce motor heat, but i can only assume the lower friction coefficient will help in these areas.

First off I measured the brass bearings with some calipers to determine their size, the closest match is a 2x5x2mm bearing which i ordered from here. You require 8 bearings to replace all of the brass ones.
On the left is the ball bearing and the right the original brass bearing.

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Step 1 - Remove prop, gear, rotor shaft. To do this there is a guide on the parrot website but essentially all you have to do is remove the circlip on top of the prop with a screw driver and slide out the rotor shaft. Be careful not to fire the circlip across the room as theyre tiny and easily lost.

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Step 2 - Remove brass bearing. The easiest way to do this is to take the rotor shaft that was removed and insert it a few millimetres into the bearing, deep enough so that the tip should be past the base of the brass inside the mount. Then gently and slowly rock the bearing whilst pulling upwards until it frees itself. Be patient and careful to avoid damaging the plastic around the bearing.

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Step 3 - Insert ball bearing. This can simply be done by inserting the ball bearing and pushing it home with your finger.

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Here is the fully inserted bearing

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Step 4 - Repeat the process on the underside bearing.

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Step 5 - Reassemble the rotor, just reverse the process of taking it apart.

With one rotor done repeat the process for all 4 and you should be set with improved bearings. I hope this helps anyone who wants to do the same, but I must state that this will invalidate your warranty (although putting back the brass bearings is easy enough ;) ) and you may damage your drone in the process, therefore I take no responsibility for anyone following this guide.

Feel free to post this to the main site if you feel its worthy Symon.

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Re: Ball Bearing Guide

Post by Symon » 27 Sep 2010, 19:55

Thanks for the great guide Zenocha. I will certainly add to the how-to section, cheers.

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Post by BlackSXTSport » 27 Sep 2010, 20:01

Hello, my new personal hero!

I NEVER thought of doing this but it is a GREAT IDEA!!!!! I've done this to R/C cars in the past with GREAT results! How close is the fit for the 2x5x2mm?

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Re: Ball Bearing Guide

Post by zenocha » 27 Sep 2010, 20:27

They fit just as snug as the brass bearings, so far ive flown with them about 20min with no problems to report.

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Post by jalexartis » 27 Sep 2010, 20:34

Great mod. What changes did you experience in your 20 minutes of flying? Thanks! --jim

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Re: Ball Bearing Guide

Post by Symon » 28 Sep 2010, 00:02

Thank you once again zenocha.

I have put your modification up.

http://www.ardrone-flyers.com/maintenan ... g-mod.html

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Post by zenocha » 28 Sep 2010, 00:05

Cheers Symon.

Jalexartis, to be honest in terms of flight performance of the drone there seems to be little change, which is to be expected, its already very responsive out of the box. Its also very hard to judge whether it is affecting motor temperature, the motors still feel warm but without a IR temperature gauge or the like its hard for me to do actual measurements.

My main reasoning is that any reduction in rotational resistance is a good thing, even if its not hugely noticeable in general use. If ive made one observation its that once the drone gets down to around 5% battery remaining it does seem to run longer on those last few percent than it did before. I'll do some proper timed tests tomorrow if the weathers with me before work.

For me personally half the fun is in the modding.

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Ball Bearing Guide

Post by jalexartis » 28 Sep 2010, 00:22

Thanks! I understand the fun you are having. I was hoping you may have said it is not as noisy. Thanks for sharing. --Jim

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Re: Ball Bearing Guide

Post by zenocha » 28 Sep 2010, 00:37

The noise of the gears meshing far overpowers the noise that the bearings make. If you really wanted to reduce the noise you would require a belt drive of some sort, but that would take some serious work and it would have to be a toothed belt to cope with the rotor torque. If anyone feels up to that feel free to give it a go!

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Ball Bearing Guide

Post by jalexartis » 28 Sep 2010, 00:43

Thanks Zenocha.

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Re: Ball Bearing Guide

Post by rotohead » 28 Sep 2010, 01:05

Anybody in the US find a online site for purchase? As long as I don't have to deal with eXpansys/parrot/brookstone I'll buy parts for the drone.

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Post by zenocha » 28 Sep 2010, 10:22

I just did a flight time test with two batteries, outdoor shell, indoors so zero wind and the only input from me was to tell the drone to take off, i then let it hover until it automatically landed. First battery 10min39sec, Second battery 10min42sec. If somebody with a stock unit could repeat the test it would give some indication of any effect the bearings are having.

On a side note im pleased to see that my drone ended up only around 1ft or 30cm from where it took off from a full 10min of autopilot, pretty good i think.

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Re: Ball Bearing Guide

Post by rotohead » 30 Sep 2010, 03:52

I'm no expert in RC helis or engineering but, isn't this more of a radial bearing? I'm sure there is some improvement in reducing friction over a brass bushing type but I could see a much better improvement with a 'thrust bearing' type design. Do they have that available in the RC parts inventory? As mentioned before, the biggest drag on performance is the gearing. The noise alone tells you all you need to know.

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Re: Ball Bearing Guide

Post by buffythesaint » 01 Oct 2010, 18:08

The best way to test if your getting better performance is to measure the current draw off the battery. If you can put a watt meter in-line, the current draw will be less in your bearing setup...in theory. Attach the meter but no hull, before mod. Bring it up in a hover and read the numbers. Do the mod and redo the test again as before.

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Re: Ball Bearing Guide

Post by matt1315 » 01 Oct 2010, 22:03

Hi

Great guide.

I replaced the bushings when I first got my ardrone, I got my bearings from here http://www.rcbearings.co.uk/index.php?m ... anguage=en.

I had 3 flights with my drone using the bushings, you can see in the pic below where the shaft wears against them.

If you put the bearings straight in then the inner race will touch and rub on the plastic as illustrated in the drawing below with the red line.

You need to remove a tiny bit of the plastic under the inner race as show in the illustration on the right.

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